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Thank you for the write up. However I don't think Jesus did not establish rituals for His disciples or did not establish the church as visible organization. For example, what would you call baptism as it took place among the early Christians ( Acts 2:38; 8:16; 10:48). It was obviously instituted by Jesus (Mt 28:19; Mk 16:16, Jn 3:5). Also, what about the Lord's supper? Jesus clearly tell his disciples "do this in memory of me. (Luke 22:19)" and we clearly find the early Church performing this ritual (Acts 2:42, 1Cor 11:20). Finally, there was a practice of calling the elders of the Church to anoint sick people (James 5:14 - 15)

I understand that Jesus condemned "traditions of men" that went against the commandments of God (Mk 7:8 and Mt 15:6). But Jesus himself went to the temple to pray (remember he got angry when he saw the money changers in the temple), he obeyed the Jewish laws of Passover e.t.c In the New Testament we find the early Church making use of oral traditions ( 2 Tim 2:2, 2 Thess 2:15, 1 Cor 11:2; 2 Tim 1:13). Tradition, etymologically, just means what is handed down.

Finally, if the church wasn't really meant to be an organisation but a group of people who thought and lived differently from others then why did he make Peter his second-in-command? (Mt 16:16) Why did he give the Church authority (Mt 18:18 & Jn 20:23) and make it infallible (Luke 10:16, Mt 28:20, 1 Tim 3:15). The apostles acted as leaders in the Church by laying hands on new converts and ordaining deacons.

Once again thank you for the write-up. I look forward to your response to these questions

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